Darwinism vs. ID vs. Evolution 2.0



Intelligent Design

Evolution 2.0 (a.k.a. Third Way, Extended Synthesis)

Origin of Life

Presumed to have emerged from random chemical processes

Created by an Intelligent Designer

Information theory says codes require a designer, or else an undiscovered emergent process that generates codes



Instantaneous events of intervention

In real time

Sources of Novelty

Random copying errors; natural selection is the hero

Insertion of information by outside agent

Transposition, Horizontal Transfer, Epigenetics, Hybridization, Symbiogenesis, Niche Construction, Retroviruses

Scientific Status

Randomness impossible to prove; much of the evidence is anecdotal, not empirical; millions of years too long to test

Supported by inference; not possible to experimentally demonstrate; rejects methodological naturalism

Demonstrated in 70-plus years of documented live lab experiments

Implications for Humanity

Chance, luck, and “blind pitiless indifference” of an uncaring universe; social Darwinism

Man is a special creation

Profoundly directional, cooperative process that invites us to humble ourselves and study with care

Implications for Science & Technology

Humans are smarter than nature, so we must now begin to direct our own evolution

Scientists can study designs, but not the design process

Nature is far wiser than we are, suggesting caution; cell research promises tremendous breakthroughs in medicine and engineering




Systems biology: There is no privileged point of causation

Implications for Spirituality

Religion is a myth, a way for “holy men” to wield power over the masses

Most commonly associated with evangelical Christianity

Science points to something beyond itself, far greater than us or the universe


DNA, Fitness, Evolution: Perry Marshall flexes mental muscles on muscle head podcast

Why the heck would a bunch of muscle heads want to talk evolution? Simple: because it’s incredibly relevant to every area of our lives, including fitness.

I was just featured on the MindPump podcast, to talk about my work on Evolution 2.0, and the Evolution 2.0 Prize. If you’re not into fitness, you may never find this podcast (or my interview) on your own. So I wanted to make sure you saw it. Because even if you haven’t stepped a foot in a gym in the last decade, you’re still going to love this interview.

We covered a TON in the 1-hour discussion… Read more »

The Iron Curtain of Biology, Junk DNA, and the Protestant Reformation

In 1517, Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door in Wittenberg, Germany and started a revolution.

Seven years ago I wrote a piece called “The Iron Curtain of 2010”. There, I predicted that Darwinism would crack in ~2013. That there would be some Berlin Wall tipping-point event.

Well, I was a little early….but definitely in the ballpark.

In 2012, The ENCODE project reported that at least 80% of our DNA has at least some discernible function, in contrast to those before who insisted that 97% is junk.

ENCODE pounded a good solid nail into Read more »

What kind of God makes an evolutionary universe?

Stuart Norey posted this insightful comment on my blog:

I am not going to argue for or against any sort of God. But I will say this.

In the world NOW there are countless examples of evolution happening right now, backed up by sound science. There are no examples of God at work backed up by sound science.

Science can show, through DNA and fossil records etc, the previous evolutionary paths species have taken. No sensible person would argue against examples of current species evolving from others, even man.

Perry does not argue that God created man. His God is not like the God of the more traditional biblical God the ‘Christians’ etc who defend his views argue for.

Perry does not seem to deny science or evolution happening.

The biblical story is clearly wrong.

He has therefore had no choice but to retreat from biblical creation and his God appears to Read more »

Stephen Meyer Debates Perry Marshall – Intelligent Design vs. Evolution 2.0

“What Happened to Evolution at the Royal Society?”

Evolution vs. Intelligent Design Debate – Perry Marshall vs. Stephen Meyer on the UNBELIEVABLE radio program & podcast with host Justin Brierley



Annotated transcript with additional videos, links, comments and resources by Perry Marshall at the bottom.

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What Science and the Post Office Have in Common

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Nicholas Upchurch

I was recently invited by Nicholas Upchurch to appear on his Believe! podcast. We ended up with over an hour of unusual content.  Now, here’s why I called this clip “unusual.”

There are many theories, models, and hypotheses that Nicholas and I may not agree on. And some of the remote fringes of science that he aspires to traverse may be very… “fringy.” However, what unites the two of us is our shared conviction that no verifiable fact can be ignored if we want the true science to happen.

We ended up visiting many rabbit holes in this very short time span. If there was a world record for that, we’d almost certainly smash it.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

  • What mainstream scientists, researchers, and professors are most afraid of
  • Was life brought to Earth from another planet? (And why the answer to that doesn’t answer anything.)
  • Extraterrestrials and the Vatican
  • What comes first, matter or consciousness?
  • Pacemakers, Galileo, and the center of the Universe
  • What science and the post office have in common

Listen to it here: Perry Marshall on Science vs. God

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Yes, Richard Dawkins is Obsolete

Thanks to Mark D. Thompson for posting this helpful blog comment:

Richard Dawkins has been out of date since the day “Selfish Gene” hit the bookstores

This issue [re: “Memo to Dawkins & friends: Recess Is OVER”] was also debated in a Nature article in terms of niche construction:

Richard Dawkins has been out of date since the day that he published the Selfish Gene. I admire his writing and his books were great enjoyment leading into my undergraduate.

However, Sewall Wright, Rupert Riedl, Conrad Waddington, and even Richard Lewontin were very skeptical. Some even published rebuttals of Dawkins in the peer-reviewed literature.

Stephen J. Gould’s writings should have been the tombstone marker on Dawkins’ thesis, but for some reason this never caught traction.

There is a grand divide between populist thinking in evolutionary biology and what is really going on in evolutionary peer-review.

Here we are with an article in 1978 on epigenetics:

Dawkins still didn’t get the memo. He put out this horrific paper:

It was essentially a re-hash of what he has already said and he ignores the evidence. I have admired Dawkins and many of the other neo-Darwinian) players, but they need to modify their views in light of the evidence (which they claim to do).

Interestingly, Charles Darwin would be more of a modern thinker in relation to his pangenesis theory, which started genetics and is really prescient thinking on the way that RNA intermixes with the proteome. Great article!

For Those of You Ready to Chuck Your Faith Out the Window

By day, Jason Vidaurri is a mild-mannered chemical engineer of about 16 years, whose day job consists of delving into the intricacies of turning raw materials into useful, everyday products. A perfectly respectable role for a man of his education and experience.

Outside of work (and likely unbeknownst to his coworkers), Jason is the engineer of – a podcast committed to helping others find more of their own success in all aspects of life by giving people the freedom to tell their story – with the intent that listeners might find foundational material on which to build upon their own lives.  

Jason recently had me as his guest to talk about Evolution 2.0 and we immediately cut to the chase. In this episode we talk about my harrowing journey of slashing through the jungle of the creation versus evolution debate, how we spend our lives fighting random mutation, and my simple exercise of organizing the world into two halves: those with code and those without.

Here’s a few highlights guaranteed to awaken your inner geek:

  • Theology is squishy, science is not – 9:02
  • How DNA is mathematically identical to an ethernet packet (really) – 15:30
  • Why evolution is simply a software engineering problem – 17:28
  • What the cell does that no other human technology is capable of (sorry, Google) – 26:23

Enjoy:  StoryHinge – Episode 11

Perry Marshall

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